#046: Black Intergalactic Royalty: Theatre, Spiritual Transformation, and Remembering Who You Are
“These external dwelling principles, that sometimes we refer to as deities, like the Neturu, like Orisha, like the many gods of many pantheons, have all been there for me from day one, and I had to find them from a traditional and well policed location."-- Dr. Geryll “G. Love” Robinson
How does a Black girl born in Coney Island Hospital in Brooklyn, New York wake up to the fact that she is Intergalactic royalty and on a mission to enlighten others?
You are going to have to listen to this most unusual conversation with Dr. Geryll “G. Love” Robinson.
Dr. G Love, as she is known, shares her journey from Catholicism which she refers to as a “well policed location” to the arts and napropy medical school to finally stepping up to her calling as a bodhisattva with plenty of attitude and humor!
When I asked her how she knew she was intergalactic, Dr. G says it was when she found the gods and goddesses from African and indigenous sources that she woke up.
“These external dwelling principles, that sometimes we refer to as deities, like the Neturu, like Orisha, like the many gods of many pantheons, have all been there for me from day one."
Fortunately, Catholicism with its emphasis on saints, laid the groundwork for her exploration of the Orisha, the Neteru, and indigenous practices of the Mayan and Aztec peoples.
Throughout the interview Dr. G. refers to systems that might be unfamiliar so let me share some background below.
Neteru not only refers to gods and goddesses of Kemet or Ancient Egypt but also to the cosmic principles that were conceived of in that culture.
The Orisha represent the pantheon of gods and goddesses that are upheld in the cosmology of the Yoruba people based in West Africa, but also in Brazil, Cuba and the U.S.
Dr. G Love emphasizes timing and working with cycles rather than against them.
For example she brings up the Saturn return which in astrology refers to a roughly twenty-eight year corrective cycle. Saturn returns tend to be difficult because they force us to restructure or repour the foundations of our lives..
Additionally, Dr. G Love shares insights into naprapathy, a unique treatment approach for the spine. Going beyond just moving bones into place; they focus on the 16 ligaments connecting each vertebrae, using hands, breath, and body movements to work with each vertebrae. It's truly an eye-opening discussion!
Don't miss out on this incredible episode and the vast knowledge and wisdom that Dr. G Love Robinson brings to the table.
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Dr. Geryll G Love Robinson Bio
Geryll “Dr. G. Love '' Robinson is an Earthly representative of Intergalactic Royalty. In this incarnation she is known as a Naprapath, Shamanic practitioner, teacher of cross cultural earth honoring wisdom traditions, Founder and Visionary Spaceholder of SoulShifting Retreats, artist, poet, curator, lover, peace activist, Queer keeper of the gaytes, and Walker of The Beauty Path.
Dr.. G’s healing practice has deep healing and spirit body roots in New Orleans, Louisiana where she practiced, taught and reveled for nearly twenty years.
At this time Dr. G. Love and her brilliant wife Deanna Dragon Downes are co-stewarding the cultural evolution through “Central Mesa” : an afro-indigenous healing and artist residency based in The Green Mountains of Vermont and Harlem, New York.
📚 Timestamped overview
00:02:50 Bodhisattva path, co-creation, purposeful incarnation, no attachment.
00:08:43 Deities supported and structured my successful upbringing.
00:11:34 Guided and given space to pursue art.
00:19:06 Schools in New Mexico, Arizona. Beautiful spine treatment, soft tissue, nerve impingement. Napropathic approach: connective tissue and nutrition.
00:24:20 Enrolled in medical school, switched from theater to medicine.
00:32:52 Confusion over indigeneity and its usage.
00:34:54 Washerwoman used indigenous medicine to heal baby.
00:39:49 Spirits choose wisdom keepers to share wisdom.
00:45:53 Factory farming and lab-grown food creating issues. Harvest time prepares for winter in mountains.
00:52:43 Timing, scared of Saturn return, adulthood, blessings
00:58:29 Witch series, Instagram updates, retreat leader.
TRANSCRIPT
Amanda Aminata:
Awesome. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome, doctor Geryll g love Robinson to the Mother Tree Network podcast. How are you?
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
I'm doing beautiful. Thank you for having me, Aminata. I mean, that's I'm so happy to be here.
Amanda Aminata:
You are doing beautiful, and you are looking good.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
Thank you.
Amanda Aminata:
Yeah. So, okay. So I like to start every conversation with this question. What is good? What is good for you today?
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
What's good? Oh, a plenty is good. First of all, it's the full moon in Aries. So for me, the full moon in Aries is yet another one of the resets. I I mean, obviously, the moon always has us resetting on a weekly, on a monthly, on a phasely. You know, we're resetting every day. How so ever. We do have the variation of name of 1 story where we start with Aries and end with Pisces, And we travel around those moons. We pop in the 13th one there.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
But when the Aries, moon dawns, For me, it's a new year. So that's what's good is an entire, new reset is upon us. It's fiery. It's It's, feverish. It's it's hungry. It's super curious. It wants so much from the world. It's really here kind of like, you know, impulsive.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
So it has that energy of pure curiosity, like a toddler. It just wants to check things out. So it's like, this is the time of the year where we can allow all the parts of us that want to, you know, really, pop off on whatever it is we've been working on, Like, be very baby like, very excited. So that's what's good for us all.
Amanda Aminata:
Wow. Okay. Okay. So you you feel like the Aries new full moon is like the beginning of a new year.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
Mhmm. Wow. Absolutely. Mhmm. Com. On Mac on a calendar. Yeah. It's the beginning of a of a it's the beginning of a whole new moon cycle, a whole new Journey of 13 moons.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
You know, we popped those little blue moons in there, that 13th one. Every you know, how they work the calendar is always a little off, but the bottom line is, yep.
Amanda Aminata:
Okay. Alright. Okay. Well, let's go there because I was talking to a friend this morning about interviewing you, and I was so excited. And I said, You know, in your bio, I think your first sent your first line is, you know, doctor Geryll G. Love Robinson is intergalactic
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
royalty. Ashay.
Amanda Aminata:
Ashay. So I was like, well, we have to go right there. If that's the first thing, tell us about that. What does that mean for you?
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
Well, you know, I was told at a very young age that I was walking the Bodhisattva path, and that was before I really could even comprehend what that was. So, for me, taking the journey into this reality of, this three d kaipture reality living on this dimension, on this planet, etcetera, you know, having the pleasure of spending a lot of that time with you. I'm getting to cocreate with you, and the rest of my beautiful family and community. I understand where I'm sitting in various locations. And so across dimensions, there's an understanding that I really chose to come down to, be present here, But didn't really need to. This isn't actually, unnecessary incarnation for me. So I've achieve the work I needed to achieve on my incarnations, but I don't have an attachment to the outcome. I could get into it actually because there are versions of the story where I'm actually in a little bit of trouble for doing this incarnation.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
So
Amanda Aminata:
I need you to move that mic closer to your mouth because the sound went in and out just then.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
Okay. Better. There are versions of the story where, I'm actually in a certain amount of trouble, like, you know, slap you on the hand, naughty trouble for incarnating. I actually have a memory of, incarnating. I was working with my, I'll say, cohort on another dimension and and planning this incarnation as a cohort. So You know, and any number of the people that have been or are in my life, I have a sole particle of them that was part of that cohort. And during that time, I saw a sentient beam of light that really caught my eye, And I ran and jumped and left. It's like I left without the group.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
I cut it. I had good good conversation for the Aries moon. I had an Aries impulse, And I grabbed that sentient beam of light and took it down, landed in, well, landed at Coney Island Hospital, Brooklyn. Woah. That's where I landed. That's where I came
Amanda Aminata:
out. Island Hospital in Brooklyn. Yeah. Okay. Alright. Alright. Alright. Yeah.
Amanda Aminata:
So Let let's let's let's take it from here. So here you are. You know, you you know, of course, Sun Ra. Right? And I remember, May he rest in peace or wherever he is, you know, be in power. But I remember when I was exploring that kind of music, that kind of, I know you call it experimental jazz. You call it cosmic. I remember that he was born in Birmingham or something like that in Alabama, and that his family was like, you You know? Because he was talking about, you know, space is a place and all this stuff. And I feel like many people, including me was like, has kinda, lost his mind in a way.
Amanda Aminata:
It's like, he's from Alabama. Why is he talking about Saturn and stuff? You know what I mean? But as I have, gotten older, gotten, like, Spandit. I'm like, oh, wow. So I've gone back to listen to Sun Ra, to his music, and And think about multidimensions. And you have definitely part of my journey about expanding, you know, who I am as a multidimensional person or being. So I guess, my question would be, have you always experienced yourself as, you know, multidimensional, or is this something that you woke up to?
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
I would say, both. One thing, you know, my paternal line is also from Alabama, so my father's from Alabama. So I wanna make that SunRock connect. My sister, white eagle woman, Stella Soul Shifter. Barbara still lives in Alabama, As does my nephew, and brother in love with her. So the Alabama roots are still there. We still have family in Alabama. So I just wanna say, you know, who knows what beam what sentient beam of light hit Alabama at some point? I'm putting that out there Since you brought up Sun Ra.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
Anyways, I haven't had it known because the colonialism of, our incarnation was pretty intense. So, you know, I was brought into a Christian upbringing, at a young age. I was baptized, and, I was baptized to run through, Catholicism. So, the cool thing about Catholicism is it's really, well syncretized with, let's say, The Orisha, it's well syncretized with a number of, Mayan, Aztec, and other indigenous practices because of the saints. So So the nice thing about Catholicism is it came with saints. And so the saints were able to create a relationship with multidimensionality because We weren't a 100% put on top of just, you know, 1 monolithic, you know, Yeshua or what have you. There was room to Be in relationship to indwelling principles, which we can trace back to, let's say, the and beyond, you know, from ancient, Kemet, Also, formally, you know, more recently known as Egypt. So, these indwelling principles And these as as without, so within.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
And these external dwelling principles, that sometimes we refer to as deities, Like the Netsuru, like Orisha, like the many gods of many pantheons, have all been there for me from day 1, and I had to find them from a traditional and well policed location. I was definitely raised to be structured, Organized and quote, unquote realistic. So I was raised to be of you know, I was raised for success. You know? I was definitely raised to be part of that, You know, quote, unquote, talented 10th. I was raised to get out here and and succeed and, you know, Too good for myself, too too good for my community, too good for the race. Each one teach one, all those type of stuff. So, you know, I shaded that because it's a great foundation, but it came inside of so much dogma as we all know. So for me, journeying Through that created confusion, but I won't say that I didn't know who I was.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
I did know. I just was so confused why It wasn't being reflected back to me. It was the lack of reflection over time that kinda like, I guess, what we call now gaslighting Kind of gas. I was able to gaslight myself because when you're young, you don't really know that other people aren't having A similar or the same experience that you are. So it took me a long time to even realize that I was having a different perception of the world than the people around me. So once that happened, I think I hit a little doldrum, and I had to go through a period of time of, you know, internal crisis. But it it it was an internal crisis that was more like a doldrum. It brought me to a standstill because I was like, well, What really is going on, you know, that I have with my little existential crisis?
Amanda Aminata:
What really is going on? Yeah. And you found out or something took you through that?
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
Let's see. Art, theater, dance, music, creativity. I would say even the music of the spheres, we could go so far as to say that, That's what took me through. You know, I definitely found my way. I was a theater professor who told me I was on the that I was a that I was a reincarnated, Bodie, Kendall, professor of my at Smith. So a lot happened to me at college. A lot happened to me there. I was given I was just granted the right people to take care of me.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
I'll say that, you know, I was a child. I I was granted the right people to take care of me and to guide me, and they were able to see me and then give me a massive amount of space, to do what I needed to do. You know, my teachers in high school also gave me a massive amount of space. I had the the good fortune of going to an experimental high school at the time in Brooklyn called John Dewey High School. And so it was an experimental high school in the public school system, and they really gave us kids the freedom that I needed. So there was a lot of room for me to to make art there, so I became a dancer. I did a lot of dance and a good amount of theater, but really a lot of dance. And as we know, the somatic realm is a beautiful way to access, you know, all of the other realms.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
And, it was John Goring and miss Grant, Just like his name. We were so happy. Pat Patricia Grant, I'm pretty sure her name was. They were the teachers, and they were really beautiful and professional dancers. So, I worked with them in in something called dance ensemble. And by the time, like, my late junior year through my senior year, I spent most of my time dancing. I went to the kind of high school that actually let you, like shift into where you could do art all the time. So I was able to dance many, many hours a day.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
And that I would say is probably a thing that started to, to break me apart. It was my 1st really big initiation was dance. And then when I went into, theater in, college, It continued to be an initiation. And I was initiated by storytelling by some of the most ancient roots of ritual, dance And storytelling, masking. These are the direct roots to intergalactic communication. You and I have talked before about, you know, our elder family members, the, And, the masking and dancing that happens annually, with the rise of the Sirius, Dog star, you know, and the star system. Sirius star system connection that the Dogon has that goes back so, so, so, so far That they were able to make these astronomical, detailed astronomical, notations About the Sirius star system long before, human beings had created telescopes strong enough to look at it. But once we did, We were able to confirm that what they recorded was in fact true.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
So how have the Dogon been connecting, ritualistically to, the star to the normal and to the star entities of the Sirius star system through masking, Through ritual and through dance. So really the roots of theater, right? The roots of art, the roots of performance For me, that's what it did. That's what did it. It immediately brought me right
Amanda Aminata:
there. Wow. I love what you said about that. It makes me think about, you know, being a theater kid when I was in high school. You know? And it makes me think about, A choreographer, theater director I met in in, you know, when I was in LA at, Cal State LA, and he said to us And I still remember it. And this is, like, 40 years later. He said, make sure you walk on some grass on some actual earth every day. Yes.
Amanda Aminata:
And I remember because when you live in urban environments, it's very easy to not do that. And, whenever he got us together for rehearsal and definitely for a performance, he he spent a lot of time grounding us, helping us to ground. And at that time, I didn't even have that language. Do
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
you remember that do you remember that, teacher's name? No. Yeah. They come and go, especially with my kids.
Amanda Aminata:
Yes. And he was, I was in 1 production with him. So it wasn't like my teacher, you know, My undergraduate years or something like that was in 1 production at Cal State LA. But, yes, he did his work because he taught me that, And that's something I kept coming back
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
to. Yeah. Andrea Hairston, who was my playwriting professor, She's the person who introduced me to the Orisha and to drumming, like drumming with the Frequency, letting the Orisha speak, drumming the tones of of spirit, of nature. So It's amazing. You know? The arts is really always the focus for me. You know? No matter what, I always consider myself to be an artist. You know, you said before we came on, like, wow. I I've never, you know, I never know what to expect from you next.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
Expect anything because I'm an artist. Constant creator. Under the scope of an artist? Exactly. A constant creator. What doesn't fall on the scope of an artist? Everything does.
Amanda Aminata:
So so you talked a lot. You said you said you dropped a whole bunch there. So I'm gonna kinda go back into what you you said as we were, talking about getting out of waking up from the doldrums. You know? Mhmm. And, it it's a and for you, the arts were a pathway, Drumming, dance, theater. And you're also a naturopath. Yeah.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
I'm a naturopath.
Amanda Aminata:
Yeah. Tell me about naturopath as opposed to naturopath. I I didn't know
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
that. There is a distinction. Yeah. A naturopath is, well, Doctor Oakley Smith was the founder of nepropathy. So this was a person who actually was cocreating with Didi Palmer and the, why am I thinking of his name? Still doctor Still, who Created osteopathy. So in the late 1800, people started to really look at the spine and to look at, the nerve roots and to really understand the spine, What the spine is, which is, of course, the keyboard, the con control the the the central nervous system and the peripheral nervous system, looking at the brain and the spine I was like, wow. The control center for the entire being. So, all 3 of those doctors interfaced with each other and work together, And they all created their own their own medicine.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
Chiropractic, osteopathic, and nephropathy were all birthed at about the Same time. Oakley Smith was definitely, sort of like the the, I guess, the wildest genius of them all. So, of course, no one's ever heard of a Napripath Because he kept it underground, and there have been Napropaths out here. The 1st school of the prophecy opened, I think, 1901 in Chicago. There are schools in nephropathy in, Oslo. So every so the people will come internationally and study there At the Chicago National College of the Property, which is now I think it changed the name a little bit, but whatever. They would come. So people have opened schools in the property In, Northern Europe, I think there's 3 schools there that were opened by, someone who attended school in Chicago.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
And, we have a school now in New Mexico as well, and it looks like we're probably getting a school in Arizona. And it is just this very Beautiful treatment of the spine. If you can get an upper path to work on you, you'll you'll appreciate it. And it's, Looking at, it's more looking at the soft tissue and how the soft tissue is, holding tension or not holding tension around the nerve root. So rather than going for the subluxation, which is just moving the bone into place, is another way to address any type of nerve impingement. It's looking at, the 16 ligaments, which includes the disc That connect each vertebrae to the one above and below it. So there's a little dance that you do with your hands and with your breath and with your body to play with each vertebrae of the spine when you're working as a naturopath. It's a beautiful connective tissue journey and also nutrition.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
We deal with, dealing with diet, nutrition, and your lifestyle. So, yeah, I I ended up. I I always knew I wanted to be a doctor. Like, that was when people said, what do you wanna be when you grow up? I always said a doctor. And I went and became an artist, you know, theater artist. My family was mad about it. You know? They were disappointed. You know? Like, what? A bum? You became a bum when you were supposed to become a doctor?
Amanda Aminata:
Yes. The 10th 10th.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
Like exactly. You know, for working class people of that era, Like, saying you're going into theater, you might as well said a bump. I went into panhandling on the street corner. You know? And no shade to panhandlers or bombs, by the way. I'm just saying. My family was really hoping for a good MD. So that was out there, and that's because of the healing, gifts that I have and the healing that moves through me. And theater, of course, was because my healing is not gonna move through me unless I am in a ceremonial place.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
So I really needed to veer into theater to unlock The
Amanda Aminata:
ceremony
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
to unlock all of the the magic, all of the gifts, the domes as we say in, South America. Like, I needed to unlock the gifts so that I could move to my purpose. So theater was an amazing avenue that unlocked, my DNA codes Yes. Really let this, this true essence of who I
Amanda Aminata:
am Yeah.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
Flow and radiate. And then, after I did a bunch of theater all through my twenties, I was doing a long running show at the time. It was called Too Much Light Makes the Baby Go Blind in Chicago. And, I was doing that show. I did that show for, about 2 years, and you Performed, like, every week almost. So it was a very rigorous, it was a rigorous schedule. And, my back and neck started hurting me, like, really, really hurting me. And at one point, I Woke up and I couldn't move because we had landlines.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
And I'll never forget. I like scooch, scooch, scooch, scooch over to finally be able to reach the landline. I was in so much pain. And I picked up the phone, and I called my partner at the time. And I was like, I'm in so much pain. Boohoo. I'm crying. And she contacted Her father who contacted a good friend of his, a Napropath, because Chicago's where all those Napropaths are.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
He magical man, doctor Shafi Ali. Doctor Shafi Ali, if you're out there, find me. Please contact me. I'd love to talk to you. Thank you. Doctor Shafi Ali came and did a house call, and he really became my guru. He was an old school black healer. He was totally into nutrition.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
He was on the he was totally on a Sunrod tip. He was the Sunrod Contemporary. He was an old school, just like seventies built, Muslim, healthy eating, focused on getting your vibration right person Who had an incredible power of healing and had honed it at the school of neuropathy and his practice that he'd been practicing for years. I became obsessed with what he was doing. It was as simple as that. Every time he came so I worked of course, I went and saw him regularly after that and became my doctor. And I just, like, got so curious about every last thing he was doing. He was working with magnets.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
He was working with polarity. Take he took me out of pain, like, seemingly miraculously, and just his vast knowledge and his humility. He was just such a cool guy, Period. So he finally was like and he was always talking like this. And he was like, you know, I think, you know, as much as, you know, as interested as you are, like, what you what I'm doing. You always ask me questions. I think you should go down to school. You know what I'm saying? You should go down to school, and, you might want me interested in being a naturopath.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
That's why I went to the school and inquired at the school because doctor Eileen told me to do so. And then next thing you know, I'm enrolled. It was really as simple as that. I like I had to go to my agent, go to the theater people, say I'm out of theater, go to medical school, be a natural medicine doctor. And it was just 123, and I was out because I was doing performance. I really was working as an as an artist at the time, and I just stepped out. You know, I had we had Black Photocacool and beautiful, Black Women's Theater Company I did with a cocreating with a group of, wonderful women in Chicago at the time, and we were, you know, writing and producing our own stuff. And so it was just like a full theater life I was leading, and then My back went out.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
I called doctor Ali in, and he completely told me where. After a while, he just walked me in the direction of where I needed to go. And I just listened to him do what he told me to
Amanda Aminata:
do. Wow. I love that, and I want you to keep that microphone close to your mouth. I love that. I love that sear theater became a ceremonial space, and it opened activated your DNA, your capacity to hold ceremony. And then you got this naturopath training or, you know, those tools.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
Yeah. As soon as I joined in the property school was as soon as I met with my Reiki master, doctor Jane Fresni. And she was in apprenticeship with Don Oscar in the Pachacuzzi. So my Reiki master had was already had been apprenticing for years with Oscar, Don Oscar Miro Quesada, who's, you know, person who brought the Pachacuti Mesa to us on the prophecy of the eagle and the contour. So he brought this energy, this this this this, wisdom keeping energy up from Peru, on the frequency of the condor and brought it up to North America as he was tasked to do by his teachers. And He, brought this energy up here. Jane had been studying with him, And she brought me to study with him as well. So all of that happened, and physical pain in my body is what caused it.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
So the theater activated me, and I was having these real intense joint issues. And, so it's the path of the wounded healer, And that's what brought me to the property. It's what then brought me to the shamanic practices.
Amanda Aminata:
Okay. Great. So You're just leading us through the shamanic practices. Because another thing you say in your bio is that you're a shamana. And, yes. And, I want to for people who don't know what, a shamana is or who, There's a lot of shaman conversation out there right now. Like, if you go on Instagram or I don't know where people go. But there's just a lot of shamans and shamanic conversation and, you know, plant medicine, sacred medicine.
Amanda Aminata:
There's just a lot of more in the general consciousness now. Probably much more so than when you started your path with the, the Pachacuti Mesa, you know, tradition or pathway. So for you, what is, a shamana? And, you know, tell us a little bit about this Pachacuti Mesa, magic carpet that you ride.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
Yeah. Well, we're really just dealing with nature at all times. Everything comes down to nature. So if we come through IFA, where I have a root in IFA, right, from West Africa, I have roots here in, the Americas and strong initiatory roots out of the Peruvian practice through the Pachaca Tamesa. Right. So ifa, all we areisha, that's nature. The Pachacunti mesa, that's a medicine wheel. North, south, east, west.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
Earth is what you have in the south. It's the earth element. Water, you have that in the west. Air, you have that in the north. Fire. You have that in the e. Ether. You have that at the center.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
We work with 5 directions. And so there you are in nature. What are all the elements of nature that you're gonna find in the south of the mesa? Now we're gonna pull out these interdimensional elementals of the Earth. We're gonna pull out, as we move around the mesa, we're gonna have Maquis. We're gonna alkyes. We're gonna have. We're going to have all these different little, Elementals of nature will be found in the medicine wheel. All the animals will be found in the medicine wheel.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
We have tutelary animal allies for each Location. Right? We have Amaru, the snake in the south. We have the dolphin and the whale in the west for emotion. We have the eagle and the condor in the north, the spirit. We have the jaguar and the puma in the east, the fire. We have the, Hummingbird and the llama in the center for the rainbow quintessence, the Koichi, for, ether. So now we see that we've brought all of nature into one little One little carpet. So the carpet is, of course, this woven cloth that you lay down, and then you create Your 5 directional space on top of this manza, this carpet.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
And the weave, the warp and weft of the carpet is its own magic. It's its own incredibleness. The the llama the gamma is very present because you're going to be using the wool of the Yamo to make the threads and the yarns that weaves the fabric. So now we're weaving the fabric of reality. We're weaving into the collective consciousness. We're doing this incredible work now as weavers, and this is before we even lay out a mesa. Just the act of weaving creativity Creating the manta, the clock. So as Shamana, as I experience myself, I'm a cross cultural Afro Indigenous practitioner of Earth honoring tradition.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
So when that is very specific to planet Earth. So it is Earth as in Earth, The planet. I think that's important because there's a lot of talk about, you know, Intergalactic relationships, including me saying I'm here as an intergalactic representative, and I am, of Earth. Because we're all here in space is the place, and we're in space too. It's not like Earth is someplace and space is someplace else.
Amanda Aminata:
True. True. True. So Okay. Oh, but let's go back to that. Space is a place. And when I was making fun of Sun Ra when I was in my early twenties because, basically, I was more political revolutionary. I really thought he was leaving.
Amanda Aminata:
I didn't really see it as Earth is part of space and that we have dimensions of being and of participation and cocreating. So, so yeah. So you said that as this Shamana, you are, you know, basing yourself on Earth in this particular incarnation. And then from here, you're working with nature spirits. Am I getting it right? Yep. Mhmm. Mhmm. Okay.
Amanda Aminata:
And these different elements. Right. And you're an Afro Indigenous, practitioner. So I know you I know that I can see the Afro part of you, and you already spoke about Alabama. Did you wanna say something about your indigenous
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
roots? Well, there are a few pieces about indigeneity. One, we're all having some relationship with semantics when we use words like shaman and indigenous, Aboriginal native. So we do wanna address the fact that there are some real, glitches in the English language right now. You know, the language that has us under this colonizing language doesn't have the space For us to express ourselves as clearly as we'd like to if we're coming from a very deeply rooted place. So, For 1, there's the phrase where there's the point where indigeneity is referring to the people who have we're indigenous to the Earth. So indigeneity, can it it has created confusion, and there's some political conversation about how we're using it, Because people are claiming indigeneity to planet Earth and also are claiming, you know, I'd say African Americans, we're claiming our indigenous nature, as indigenous Africans. We certainly use On the continent of Africa, the term Indigeneity, to refer to, you know, Indigenous healers there as well. So I'm just gonna say that there's that.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
In terms of my Native American heritage, that comes also from Alabama. That comes down on my grandmother's side. My grandmother was part native and part African. A very tall, gorgeous, beautiful woman. There thank goodness there's photograph remaining of her. A beautiful woman born in the late The late 1800. I don't know her exact date. Very long, luscious, thick black hair she was known for And very beautiful, glowing, ebony skin.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
She worked, A lot of times, as a washerwoman and, did these type of, Jim Crow or, you know, post slavery type survival tasks, but she carried the indigenous, medicine from her fore parents and from her grandmothers. So my father always told the story of how she, healed, one of his baby sisters from the croup, with, the fat of a goose And told the story of how she boiled you know, the baby was really, not able to take in breath. Had such a bad case of the croup, and the phlegm was too thick the the baby to be able to take in oxygen. And, my father was the eldest. He, recalls his mother Breaking down a goose, skimming off that fat, cooling it, putting it on a all over the baby and putting it on a cloth, wrapping the baby very, very, very tightly in the cloth, Chanting, praying over the baby, and then being able to just clear all that mucus out From the lungs. As my father says from his mother, he learned that we were, black feet. And, you know, I wish that we woulda had an opportunity to ask more questions, But because of the nature of colonialism at the time, we didn't. Right.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
Yeah. So on the bloodline, It very much comes from my grandmother, Annie Lou Perry Holmes.
Amanda Aminata:
Wow. Don't you love that
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
mastery when
Amanda Aminata:
you hear these stories about our mastery? Yeah. You know? It just I I love that. It just reminds me because I've I've been thinking about this thing. What are the stories we tell ourselves, And what are the stories that we tell that we accept from each other? And there is a story of oppression. There's a story of slavery, of Jim Crow, of, you know, that movie 13, you know, where people were put into, virtual slavery through these imprisonment work camps. There is there is that. And there's a story of that creativity, of that mastery of your grandmother. And I feel like sometimes we get So fixated on the oppression that we forget the how so many people.
Amanda Aminata:
What's that word I'm looking for? They worked that. They reworked
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
it. Yeah. Yeah. Including Working
Amanda Aminata:
Roots. Working
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
Roots. It's a very Afro Indigenous thing to do, Working Roots. People carried all this medicinal information with them, And and it and it channeled through people. You know, that healing line is strong that comes down through my grandmother, for sure. I mean, it's strong on all sides. It comes, Well, it comes from within and without, and it comes from all kind of dimensions. But to really see that indigenous frequency, you know, her ability to work in the plants, was something that he mentioned as well. You know? So she had inherited all this information, but we know all these different ancestors from from Africa, and from Native America, carried so much wisdom with them and really thrived with a lot of mastery.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
I mean, that's the thing. Like, how did even, like and then we'll go to, you know, South American indigenous practices and how we ended up getting the Pachacuti Like, how did any of that survive? Like, all of these people are wisdom keepers. So for me, I am in constant awe of wisdom keeping Because we know that the gatekeepers of everything were, like, vicious and harmful and oppressors and, like, would do the worst kind of things To remove this, what we refer to as wisdom, from the cultural consciousness, that there was a real move to remove all information. So the fact that any of this information survived exactly. That's why I'd like to focus. I'd like to focus on all that mastery, all that wisdom keeping, All that incredible magic. The ability for the people of the high, The, the people high up in the mountains of the Andes. This is why we are carrying the Pachacuti Mesa in part It's because the people way up in the mountains and way deep in the jungle were untouchable primarily by these big old conquistadors that came through there.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
They weren't able to breathe that high up in the mountain, and they weren't able to survive and get that deep into the jungle. So as it's told, the spirits, The spirits of nature as well as the spirits of of without, we'll just say, the ancestors came down, and they deemed certain people wisdom keepers. You know? We also are gonna find that here in North America, the wisdom keepers, the carriers of the pipe, of the of the Lakota Dine, white buffalo calf woman medicine. All of these All of these pieces where people were told you carry the medicine because the dark night is coming on us. And when it's time, you have to let go of the pot. You have to let go of the medicine. You have to puff the you have to let the smoke of the pipe Travel amongst the people. There will come a time when you're going to share.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
So when we ask questions about, oh, cultural appropriation or how does this work, Cultural appropriation is a thing. Okay? Let us not let anyone let themselves off the hook for that. Howsomever, I'm talking about wisdom keeping of global technologies that were kept safe for a very long time for planetary presence. So global technology is just that. It's for the globe. So we give thanks to the people who were able to hold these technologies until the time is appropriate to pass them out and pass them on. I actually have a painting here, made by Sarah Deary. You could see it over there.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
I'm gonna have to move to show it to you closer, but that's called the spirit of the wind passing over the forest. And one of the people in that, one of the entities in there, it's all nature spirits, is, So I learned from Ye Yeti. She's Ashay. We sent to o sign to awaken the medicine in the plants. So o sign is also a wisdom keeper. He carries wisdom keeper medicine. He lives in the forest. He's Part of the forest nature, and there's a story of Pataki about Osine where he was told, you protect this pot.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
You hold all of the wisdom of So this is like a jungle story now, a forest story. Hold all the wisdom and don't let anyone take it from you because times are dark. You must hold it. And then when the time came, the prophecy time, we call it many things, came to disseminate, he didn't wanna let it go because he said, no. No. You don't. I already know my job is to hold this pot. So he was said, I'm gonna hold the pot.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
So this piece is called the spirit of the wind passing over the forest because the spirit of the wind was sent to bring a strong wind through the forest so that the pot Would, fall out of all science hand break, and the medicinal wisdoms would be shared again amongst us. Now that's why you see all this that's why you say, oh, everyone's talking. Everyone's suddenly talking about shamanism. Everyone's talking about plant spirit medicine. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
Boom. Boom. Boom. Boom. Because it is the prophecy time, and so people only have the consciousness of the waning paradigm to process all this new information that's come in. So the the conversation's a little messy, sometimes a little infuriating depending on who you are, But the conversation's happening because the spirit of the wind passed over the
Amanda Aminata:
forest. Okay.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
Because the eagle and the condor came to meet each other again. It's the timing. Because the white couple of buffalo calf is back.
Amanda Aminata:
Got you. Okay. So we're gonna take a quick break here, and then we're gonna come back and, I don't know. We can't wrap up, but we'll come
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
back. You'll be asking me these questions, So you are
Amanda Aminata:
Wow. So you were you were doctor g, you were talking about timing and how the time is now. The wind has blown, you know, the pot open and things are now circulating. And what I wanted to acknowledge and say, one of the things I've learned from you is the importance of timing, of honoring timing. I think under capitalism and and colonization and, I don't know, extraction culture. We think the time is always now. And what I mean by that that Now is always the time to do whatever it is you wanna do. And if it's not working, just work it harder.
Amanda Aminata:
You know what I mean? As opposed to that I love that yes. As opposed to timing and cycles, and where are we in the cycle? And is this the appropriate thing for this moment and whatever cycle we're in? So I would love to hear like, how do you get to maturity about timing? And maybe what are some of the ways that you test So you can know if your timing if you are in good timing for whatever it is that you wanna do or not do.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
That's where, you know, we started talking about what's good, the moon. I'm looking outside. I see foliage. I see beautiful, beautiful, beautiful waves of color. So there's so much that goes with this timing. It's a final great time of harvest. I mean, nature teaches you about timing. If you want to harvest your squashes and pumpkins, you have to wait until now, and that's that.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
So, of course, people went and, you know, created all kind of factory farming, and we're always trying to figure out how to grow things in labs, but We're just talking about nature. The time to harvest is upon us. It's a time to put things away And get ready for winter up here in the far north, up in the mountains. So if one does not do those things, If one does not stack wood, for instance, one will not have heating fuel. It will become cold eventually. So nature has a nice way of teaching you, too bad With that, with that construct. You know? So living in nature, living in the mountains Has really been, driving home a lot of lessons about timing because you do have to do things on schedule. If you'd miss a certain time to plant, you missed it and the growing season up high in the elevation in the mountains is short.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
So you're not gonna give your seeds enough time to propagate if you're on and on and on. So nature is my great teacher with timing. Then we'd look at the moon. We'd look at the stars. We'd look at, the music of the spheres. So these are the people who study the planetary transits and so forth. That tells us a lot about timing. Then I go to get my readings very, religiously.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
I'm gonna be getting some type of reading, divination in my life. So I use a lot of divination to make sure that the timing is right. And you can just do simple divination to get a yes or no maybe on timing. Sometimes you you have to have the patience and the wherewithal to pause and ask yourself It's weaving into your reality. I have to ask about timing now because we can be prepared. We can have all of our, you know, so called ducks in a row. We can have done all the homework. We can be ready and raring to go.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
We can Have the resources necessary to launch the cocreators in place, but it's just not the right time. It'd be very helpful People to start using divination tools or going to, you know, trusted elders to to to divine on the appropriate time. You know, something that's happened in in the last, you know, 20 years as people become aware, for instance, of retrogrades. So now people are like, oh, let me not launch a major project during a Mercury retrograde, but that's new too. It's really only recent that I would say, you know, tipping point happens where a significant number of people understand about, the influence of Mercury retrograde. It's a better time for creativity. It's a better time for, conjuring stuff up. It's a better time to do the inner work during the Mercury retrograde.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
It's not a time to, Jump out here and, do this Kipocha external three d work. So that's some of it.
Amanda Aminata:
I love that.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
And one
Amanda Aminata:
of the things that's come for me, because you said you look to nature. And one of the things that, you know, I'm 57, but I and I admit just recently, Really, I really got was that instead of looking at my life as, like, a line We're like a race. It's really, circular. It's cyclical. And the themes that I face in my life, I will face again. Mhmm. Because that's the way it is now. Who I am when I face it, the resources I have shifts.
Amanda Aminata:
Right. But the themes will keep returning. And, that has sort of taken some of the, some of the pressure or some of the, I don't know, competitive kind of outward focus. Like, am I as far along as somebody else, or, you know, I gotta get this done fast? Or, what's wrong with me? Because I'm here. I'm facing the same theme again. Mhmm.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
What what? A big one. That's a big one right there. You really hit the nail on the head.
Amanda Aminata:
What's wrong with me
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
and my kids? With me because I'm facing the same theme again. Because we all wanna have a linear well, we were raised in the waning paradigm to have a linear relationship to everything, including healing. So it's like, I thought I got over that. I went to therapy over that. I've processed that. Why is it back again? I thought I was over that issue. It's not really it's cyclical, but, of course, as you know, it's a spiral because time makes each circle move out. Each circle is not Right on top of the other circle.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
It's not the identical circle. It's in a different location. It's a spiral. It's outside of it. So you're gonna pass. You're still gonna go through just the moon. Think of the moon. You're still gonna go through a dark period.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
There will be a waning to darkness no matter what. Now depending on how you dealt with it last time and made your way around the cycle, This time, hopefully, you have some better tools to move through the dark night of the soul. I don't wanna have a dark night of the soul. Well, you know what? 57? Look who's back in their Saturn return.
Amanda Aminata:
That's exactly it. For people don't know she's talking about me. 57. I'm in the Saturn return. Yes.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
Yes. You are back. That's a huge cycle. That's a 27, 28 year long cycle.
Amanda Aminata:
And I'm blessed to be here because the other option would be not to be here. Shay. You know? So here I am in the cycle. But do you know what? That's relatively new for me. That is relatively new for me. And I feel like maybe the whole linearity kind of, construct, it's, maybe it's motivated by scarcity and fear.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
You know
Amanda Aminata:
what I mean? Maybe it's maybe it's not just a, paradigm. Maybe it's actually you know, it's a paradigm with the root of making people constrict or Yeah. Grasp or something.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
Mhmm. Mhmm. Well, You're in a beautiful place to be doing this investigation because, you know, 56, you'd have to you'd have to look your chart to see when Saturn came back to the same place it was when you were born. But somewhere in the past year, somewhere between 56 and now, you're hitting your Saturn return, so you're in there. Oh, yeah. Okay. Reflect back On being 27, 28, 29, 30. What did you do during that period in your life? So this is where we are in the cycle.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
So timing, you're in a divine timing because you're in a place to not be scared of your Saturn return either. People are usually scared of their Saturn Return the 1st time around because it's a it's a real coming of age. You know what I mean? Kinda coming out of it. Real youth and having to Launch into this nebulous scary thing called adulthood. So now you have so many resources, so much information as a human being That this Saturn return, it's like, well, who's Saturn? Okay. Saturn is about structure, is about order, is about task mastering, very paternalistic energy. So Just even going from there, you can look at, how those things happened in your life then, well, how Saturn brought challenges And change and blessings and gifts into your life then, and start seeing how you're relating to Saturn at this point in your life. That's you know, this is the Saturn return that people haven't been talking about yet.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
People we all wanna talk about that 1st Saturn return. Well, let's, you know, make sure we have this conversation about our 2nd Saturn return because you know I'm right behind you. So I'm excited about my 2nd Saturn return. My 1st Saturn return was great. It ordered me. It structured me. It got my life on path. It addressed a lot of the time period that you just asked me about earlier.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
I woke up. I got my act together. By the time I stepped out of my Saturn return, boom, I I was in the property school. I was very seriously on my path. So I'm about about it because my my first one really got me in alignment, and I'm prepared to definitely continue to take all the lessons and all the messages necessary to keep me, On my on my most benevolent and most ideal path at this
Amanda Aminata:
time. Yes. Yes. You know, I feel like this is the best time of my life. You couldn't pay me to go back to my twenties. I mean, really, this is the queen. This is the queen, period.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
So when
Amanda Aminata:
you said you were into galactic royalty, I was, like, on that bus.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
Oh, absolutely.
Amanda Aminata:
Absolutely. It's
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
a beautiful story. That whole ambassador life. So we have a really classic ambassador relationship to reality, and, you know, this is definitely a time to sit on the throne, wear the crown, and Enjoy the ability to, exist in a moment without, All of the anxiety that we may have experienced 28 years ago.
Amanda Aminata:
Well, I needed to hear that. I in any event of our listeners in that 2nd Saturn return, in that queenly stage of your life, feeling that intergalactic dimensionality to yourself. We hear you. You're not by yourself.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
No. I mean, because menopause is a whole another thing. It brings on the crown. It puts the crown on your head, and it puts the throne onto your butt.
Amanda Aminata:
Okay. You wanna say exactly how and what way?
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
The power of the uterus. The power of the womb is the ultimate creator. Right? It's the magical, mysterious, mystical life creator. So that womb energy has been going out, out, out. And a number of our indigenous teachers have told us That wounded individuals, whether you identify as women or not, wounded individuals come into maturity at age 52. 52 is the age of maturity for those of us who are born with wombs because the womb is constantly shedding. It's giving energy out. It's nurturing.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
It's mothering. It's doing all this stuff. Then the frequency changes inside of our inside of our moon like journey. We've come to a new location, and we go through a second, we'll say, puberty, where now the womb Takes itself within. It's no longer giving energy out. It's no longer focused on the external. Now the womb is cycling within. So that energy is building up inside of us.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
All the energy that we've been putting out It's now energy that's going in. Stay aware of your monthly womb and moon cycle even after one stops bleeding or one has a hysterectomy me. Because the energy is now going within. This is why they say 52 is a time of maturity because 52 is a time when a wounded individual can sit in the seat of power, can truly, truly begin to thrive and And use all of that magical creative energy of the womb to be the pachamama, to be the mother earth, To be that one who's able to be truly sentient. I hope. Okay.
Amanda Aminata:
Alright. I I can't ask you any more after that. It has been said. Doctor g, if people wanna learn more If they wanna hear more of this incredible vibration, where do they go to experience you? How do they get there? Oh, no. I know. I was just realizing that Listen to this podcast again and again, I guess, is one way to say it.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
Yeah. Yeah. I did a podcast, this year too. I did another podcast with, Adrienne Marie Brown that came out a couple of months ago. Mhmm. So, preparing for
Amanda Aminata:
the end of the world?
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How to survive the end of the
Amanda Aminata:
world. Mhmm.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
So, she's doing, like, a, quote, unquote, witch series right now, and she defines which kind of how I would just define Shamana. So she's doing a witch series right now, and I'm on there. So you can hear me there. I have, at doctor g love on Instagram, so whenever anything, you know, does come out, I'll be I'll post it on there if I'm doing something publicly. But right now, I'm I'm kinda everywhere all at once. As you know, I'm a retreat leader for Soul Shifting Retreats, and I'm on Sabbatical right now from Soul Shifting Retreats. That's really an apprenticeship journey, in that takes us deeper into This shamanic practice, but, we came to a 7 year cycle with soul shifting, And now is the time. Timing is everything.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
So now the time for all of the seeds that were planted to go out and proliferate. You know, so all the social distancing doing what social distancing do. Of course, we miss each other, but, I'm gonna just go with timing on that. And then I've got all these other creative projects happening right now, working with land, working with artists. You know, working with central Mesa right now is really my focus. I just got married this year. Hello.
Amanda Aminata:
Congratulations. Thank you. Oh my god. What an incredible bride you were. You just stepped into that role.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
Thank you. It was amazing. You know, it's only been it hasn't even been 3 months yet, so I'm a newly wedded. Beautiful. It was an amazing experience. Thank you for being there at the wedding. It was really just
Amanda Aminata:
divine. Alright, everybody. Well, you heard it. Stay in touch with us. Thank you again, doctor Gerald G. Love Robinson, for being on this planet, You know, incarnating maybe against some of your, better advice or expectations of you And, just for being the brave soul you are.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
I say thank you. I mean, that's a desert rose plant, Walker fire woman. I love you. I appreciate you, and it's a total pleasure to be on the airwaves and in the frequency this Full moon in Aries 2023 with you.
Amanda Aminata:
Oh, yes. And I hope to have you back so we can follow-up on the uterus.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
Okay. Yes. We could do a whole list.
Amanda Aminata:
Go there. Yes.
Dr. Geryll "G Love" Robinson:
Alright. 2nd Saturn returns. 2nd Saturn return.
Amanda Aminata:
Okay. The both. Okay. Okay. Love you. 11
